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Call me Ishmael..
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Latest update on C-17 landing at McMurdo.
RECAP:
News Release: Crews unload a C-17 Globemaster
from McChord Air Force Base,
Wash., Oct. 15 at McMurdo Station,
Antarctica. This was the first time a
C-17 touched down on the frozen
tundra of the Antarctic Circle. A first
for the C-17, this is part of validation
tests for future Antarctic missions.
COMMENT: No doubt that a PAO type wrote the above from his desk at McChord
AFB without ever having been to the ice and not knowing anything about
Antarctica, or that tundra does not compute in connection with Antarctica.
UPDATE:
A herd of starving Yaks have invaded McMurdo Station after devouring the
frozen tundra on the skiway at Williams Field. Observers on Ob Hill reported
the herd of berserk animals came through the pass and descended on the NSF
Field Party warehouse at about 1300 Sunday. By 1500 the crazed Yaks had
devoured most of the field party rations including the entire stocks of
sesame seeds, pickled beetroot and Fannies Secret Barbecue Sauce. When last
seen the beasts were headed north and had just rounding Winter Quarters Bay
Peninsula.
The Yaks were imported to Antarctica from Greenland by the NYANG in an effort
to control the frozen tundra problem at Willy Field. Some usually reliable
sources speculate that the tundra was really a hardy form of marijuana plant
that had been cultivated by hydroponic methods by the civilian contractor
Strip Rats. The Yaks ate the "tundra" just as planned, but after the
vegetation ruminated in the four-stomach pouches of the Yaks the peculiar
behavior started.
Neither the NSF Representative or the Air Force on-scene commander were
available for comment.
An investigative team from New Zealand will be sent south Monday or on the
next available aircraft. The team will consist of members of the New Zealand
Safety Board, The New Zealand Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to
Animals and the Christchurch Police Department Street Crimes Unit.
In an interview in Christchurch with Detective Sergeant Minton, of the Street
Crimes Unit, the detective made the statement: "There is definitely
skullduggery ahoof in McMurdo."
More to follow as developments permit.
Tibbetts now downclosing (tapes oncely)
Billy-Ace (cub reporter)
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I used to relay 318's position from the Ice using Tan Son not (spelling), San
Juan P.R. McDill Radio, Honolulu Radio, and a few other HF service
providers. I happened to have a copy of the Collins Radio HF handbook with
all the freqs. and call signs. Once CQ'd Honiara Radio by dit dah's when an
Aussie voice interuppted with the followin quote "AIRCRAFT CALLING HONIARA
PLEASE STOP THE DAH DAH DIT DAH'S AND COME UP 8775 UPPER SIDEBAND PLEASE,
OVER..."
kinda spooky I thought but I guess thats when Morse became passe.
DFSoupy
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An Air Force C-141 was preparing for departure from Thule,
Greenland. The crew were waiting for the 'honey bucket' truck to arrive
to pump out the plane's sewage holding tank (SHT). The aircraft
commander was in a hurry, the truck was late in arriving, and the airman
was extremely slow in getting the tank pumped out. The aircraft
commander berated the airman for his lack of promptness and proficiency,
and threatened punishment.
The young airman responded, "Sir, I have no
stripes to lose, it is 20° below zero, I am stationed in the middle of
nowhere on the arctic tundra, and my job is pumping shit out of
airplanes. Just what are you planning to do to punish me?"
The following day the airman received orders to the NYANG and is now
serving box lunches on C130s operating in Antarctica during the austral
summer season. He only has to pump the SHT during crew rest in
Christchurch, New Zealand.
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Pigmy, the only problem with dogsledding to the pole for a sniff is that
there was nothing to sniff, short of maybe the lead dog. As I said in earlier
renditions of memories of the Ice, and no offense to you women that have served
valiantly, you didn't really think about it that much because you had a job to
do and there were no feminine distractions. There were several ventures made to
the winter isolation sites to pull out crushed personnel and sick scientist but
as you said, that did not seem newsworthy at the time, we were just doing our
job!!
As a matter of fact, I don't think the crews that performed those
mid-winter missions even got awards, I could be wrong, it was just another day
in VX-6.
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Where were the media
when we flew into Byrd and
saved that scientist and two of us ended up
in the
hospital with hurt backs and busted mouths and hands.
Where were they with the truth when, in 1964, a
Times Air Force Reserve
officer wrote that the Air
Force flew to Antarctica year round and the
Navy
sneaked in and out for a few months each year?
I'm sick
of the pussy service getting credit for
simple crap when we get credit
for zilch!
Get on the net and let the ABC's, CBS's and NBC's
know what we did, and what we will still do, if asked.
We would dog
sled to Pole to save that woman if
asked. Hell, there was a
time when I would have dog sledded
to Pole just for a sniff.
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I can only remember on a flight back from Pole on 318, an Air Force Capt.
who hitched a ride with us was so proud of a stone (Pebble) he found
somewhere near the barber pole. He was afraid that USARP's would
sequester it if they knew he had it so he kept it well hidden in his
parka pocket and had only pulled it out to show a couple of our crew
what he had. Nobody really got a good look at the object. Ironically,
the same gentleman was on 318 again the same day for our flight to ChiChi. After landing and clearing Customs, he
reached in his pocket to
show his treasure to some comrades who had met him at the terminal.....Loo and behold, the stone had melted into a mushy piece
of
DOG DODO...compliments of the Old huskey pet that used to be at Pole Station. So the Air Force definitely has Antarctic experienced personnel who
probably never got called for this air evac mission.
Soupy...that soupy is wild and crazy guy!!!
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charlie:
didn't you guys ever make a winfly? i've never
seen so much hype in all my life, hell it was on our
local news here in
little old kirksville, mo. i don't
know who does the air force promo
but they are masters
at it, you would think that the navy had never
taken
a crap on the continent. i don't remember any navy
publicity when in 1968 two third class abh's took off
from chili in an
open cockpit ultralite, flew to byrd
run out of gas and walked on to
McMurdo all in the
dead of winter with nothing but a jar of tang and
a
jar of peanut butter. do you remember it charlie. i
thought
not.
bear
see if any of the others
remember it.
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You sluffers and phony's,
I, Captain Zoomer USAF
Public Affairs, Washington,
DC, shall expose you for the liars you are.
During my
next appearance on Larry King Live, I will tell the
truth about the Ultralight flight from Chili in 1968.
You see, we used
our infrared goggles and
B-52's to track those two gentlemen
and we are
absolutlely certain that they carried at least one
lawnmower can full of extra fuel. Not only that, one
of the "3rd
classes" was promoted to E-5 at least a
month before the flight
departed.
We also have good reason to believe that had they
not missed movement in Pago-Pago, their subsequent
canoe trip to Chili
and flight to Antarctica would
never have taken place.
Daring
Do my ass.
Capt. Zoomer
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Since they didn't set foot on the Continent I don't think they
actually qualify for an Ice Medal. Probably receive something like the Flying
Cross or Life Saving Medal !!?
My question is, who was operating the
camera for the TV spot they ran on the news? Air Force, Lights, Camera,
Action, that bunch was always good at promoting and they really know how
to milk a story. They'll probably receive a few extra funds for the
Deepfreeze Program just in case they have another "emergency" to respond to
later. Forty people at the "Pole" for the Winter blows my mind! Having
been an Avbosn who served in the Line Crew in the Summer of '59 on the
'Strip' and 'Wintered Over' DF V/60 that year then returned to fly as a
Loadmaster on 130's 1964/66 I can tell you from first hand that the Air Force
was in the summer of 59 when they brought the A model 130's in for us to
evaluate, they were a prima donna bunch of 'candy asses' and we did all of
the hard work to make them look good. They treated us like they were the
technical pros and we should be glad they came to help us out. I got tired of
hearing about all of the per deim they were getting for their trip when they
sat around in our Jamesway 'home' and the line shack on the strip waiting
for us to load their planes so they could go make a drop. Not landing mind
you, but drop and then come back to McMurdo for some drinks and rest from
the strenuous ordeal.
Might sound like sour grapes to some, but I have been
there and experienced the Air Force up close and they only seem to get
worse, not better. That is one outfit that is a bunch of politicians and can
make a mountain out of a mole hill better and faster than anyone.
In my
humble opinion, 'most' all of the Navy/Marine OAE's subscribed to the saying,
'the difficult we do immediately, the impossible takes just a little longer'
and the CBs still always operated on their motto "CAN DO" regardless of where
they were, Antarctica no exception!
Wouldn't take a million dollars for
the experience and the great shipmates I had the privilege to meet and serve
with on the 'world's last frontier'. They made it look routine and easy
without a lot of fanfare.
I really think, all kidding aside if the "SIX"
was still at the helm, the woman would have been picked up and brought out
with a stop at McMurdo for fuel on the way back. Hell I've been to the "POLE"
when it was -90 below and we just knew it was a little colder then
usual.
Once again, who was operating the camera on that last flight so the
TV news folk could have such instant coverage??
Regards to all,
"Harry"
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Lots of "Black Shoes" served with VX-6 through the years. It was a
universal squadron. RM, PH, PC, YN, PN, and other non-aviators. All
you really needed was a skill required by the squadron and the
motivation, dedication, and desire to work under harsh conditions.
PK
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As a mere
blackshoe (non-aviator) I had the privilege to serve two tours
with VXE-6 in 71-72, and 72-73. Recruitment must be really
down!! I heartily concur with all that Mr. Noel Gillespie had to say. I've been telling people that MY Sqdn would have
treated this flight as a routine mission. As the Admiral at the
Decom stated, and I paraphrase, "VXE-6 had the
ability to make the impossible look easy." Were VXE-6 involved in
this operation, the person in question would be in a
cancer treatment center today.